bump this thread every time Cameron is a shameless and pathetic rent-a-quote machine

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Tory leader David Cameron has suggested a football team to represent Britain at the 2012 London Olympics could be decided by a home nations tournament.

Mr Cameron said a play-off could decide which of the UK's four national teams represented Britain at the Games.

The football governing bodies of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are all opposed to the notion of a combined Great Britain team.

They fear the implications for their own futures as separate entities.

Britain has not had a football team at the Olympics since 1960 due to concerns a combined British team could affect the status of individual nations within football's governing body Fifa.

Mr Cameron told BBC Scotland's Politics Show there was a need for one national team when it came to the Olympics.

'Daft' proposal

"Maybe the answer is to have a home tournament, see who wins and that team goes forward, but for the Olympics we've got to settle this so there is a representative team, he said.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown has expressed his determination to reach a deal over entering men's and women's British football teams at the London games.

The Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland football bodies have opposed any such move in case it affects their international status.

Mr Salmond said: "What we're talking about in the Olympics is an under-21 team and the idea that, in any sense, we should risk for future of Scottish international football for the sake of participation in an under-21 tournament in the Olympics, I think it simply daft."

The first minister urged all parties to stick with the Scottish Football Association's position.

He added: "They take some knocks from time to time, but they know infinitely more about the workings of Fifa than David Cameron, Gordon Brown, or even Alex Salmond."

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David Cameron has said his party will not "stand by and do nothing" in the face of rising unemployment.

He said the Conservatives had a moral obligation to help people who were laid off, or were at risk of being so.

The party is expected to outline plans on Tuesday for tax cuts to help to keep people in work.

Mr Cameron also told a Conservative women's conference that the government behaved "as if there's no limit to what you can borrow".

Reports suggest the Conservatives may unveil their tax cut proposals on Tuesday which may include a National Insurance payments holiday for new workers, to encourage employers to take on new staff.

'Stiff tests'

Mr Cameron did not outline the specifics of the party's proposals, but told the conference he would be making a "very clear announcement about some tax changes that will help to encourage businesses to take on workers and keep workers".

He said the party would set "very stiff tests" for the government, and themselves, on any proposals, so that it was clearly explained where the money was coming from.

It's a personal tragedy, an economic waste and a source of social decay

David Cameron

He warned against borrowing without limit and said proposals must not "impair, permanently" the public finances.

He said there had been an "enormous budget deficit even before the recession began" and said the figures for the next few years were "truly frightening".

"We want to help, we will help, and we will put money back in people's pockets and we will say where it comes from," he said during a Q&A session.

'Destroy lives'

He said the government was in "complete confusion" over public spending, borrowing and tax plans while the Conservatives would send a "very clear message" about how they would help people through a recession.

In his speech he said unemployment should not be seen as an "unavoidable consequence of recession".

He said people's "biggest worry" was redundancy and unemployment predictions for next year were "grim".

"The Conservative Party will not stand aside and allow unemployment to claim livelihoods and destroy lives. We will not walk on by while people lose their jobs," he said.

"Compassion" was an important Conservative value and a "fusion of this compassion with responsibility" was the authentic Tory response to the threat of mass unemployment.

"We have a moral obligation to help those who have lost their job through no fault of their own, or are in danger of doing so," he said.

Mr Cameron told the conference unemployment was bad for society as it could contribute towards family breakdown, educational failure, drug abuse and crime.

And he said the longer people were out of work, the harder it was to find a job as people lost self esteem and their skills became outdated.

"It's a personal tragedy, an economic waste and a source of social decay. It is in no-one's interests to allow long-term unemployment to take root, which is why we've got to take action now to prevent mass unemployment happening."

On Monday Gordon Brown told GMTV the government would "look at everything" to boost the economy, including tax cuts and public spending rises, but said announcements would be made in the pre-Budget report.

The Liberal Democrats are already committed to cutting tax for lower and middle earners.

Basically he won't stand by and let people the unemployed suffer, doesn't tell us how he will change it but HE WILL.

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Could you outline the reasons why you're opening a JCB plant? (glasshouse)

When JCB heard we were going to India they asked if I would open their new factory. I think it’s incredibly important for politicians to back British businesses investing abroad and to celebrate the fact that a British company is creating jobs and opportunities for people there. The reaction here made me think that the media would only have been happy to celebrate the closure of the plant!

how many trees are you going to plant to counteract your flights and transport? (jenna-appleseed)

We are off-setting all our emissions through Climate Care. As well as planting trees they also invest in renewable energy projects in the developing world. You can read about them here.

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Any chance you could convince Maggie T to start a blog? That would be an interesting read. (in fact, ah)

I’ll be sure to mention it the next time I see her…

are you going to continue blogging here or are planning on starting a new one or will this be the last of your blogging adventures? (amit)
I will most definitely be blogging in future, and I promise you won’t have to wait too long!

I would like to ask if blogging has taught you anything? What do you think of it now that you have tried it? And is it something you are going to look at in the future? Should our Party embrace it more? (mike)

Blogging has been a real revelation. It’s been so exciting for me to feel I can talk directly to you through words and video. Even more exciting was logging on and seeing all your comments day by day. I’ve got no doubt it will be a central part of our activities over the next few years. The challenge for me personally will be to build in enough diary time to do it properly.…

posted by David Cameron at 7:51 PM

http://www.dcindia06.blogspot.com/

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This JCB Plant right would it be replacing the JCB plant in Britain by any chance?

Imagine that Thatcher conversation....reminder she has demetia apparently.

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Bumping this subject is gonna keep you busy

David Cameron

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a 14-year-old already despising Cameron is quite heartwarming, award yourself a immediately son

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Just thought i'd type something i've been thinking in here recently.

"Doesn't Dave Cameron sound like a Broken Record"

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A spokesman for the Conservatives said: "The vast bulk of Labour's donations have come from just eight rich individuals. By contrast the Conservative Party has widened its donor base with donations from 260 individuals and companies."

In this story.....http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7750155.stm

WRONG....

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Lord Mandelson has dismissed claims by the Conservatives that plans to help banks and raise income tax on high earners mean the end of New Labour.

In a speech to directors, the business secretary said it was the "times that have changed, not New Labour".

He said ministers had intervened not to crush markets but to rescue them and added they would not tax "out of envy".

Earlier Tory leader David Cameron said the "real lesson" from the pre-Budget report was that "New Labour's dead".

Recycling quotes from a snotty nosed tabloid........TUT TUT

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"David Cameron has said all nations must 'stand together' to defeat the threat of terrorism"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7751863.stm

Well never....

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haha, we've finally found something that'll shut the slimy little scrote up

The BBC understands Tory leader David Cameron is angry about what has happened and stands by Mr Green.

whole party FUMING over policemen investigating politicians just like they would the great unwashed, really showing their true colours over this

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Not for long Geraint....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1092588/DAVID-CAMERON-There-5-million-people-benefits-Britain-How-stop-turning-this.html

The verdict last week on Karen Matthews and her vile accomplice is also a verdict on our broken society.
The details are damning. A fragmented family held together by drink, drugs and deception. An estate where decency fights a losing battle against degradation and despair. A community whose pillars are crime, unemployment and addiction.
If only this were a one-off story. But Shannon Matthews is just the latest innocent young face to stare out from the front pages.

I wonder why this community is built on as you say "Crime, Unemployment and Addiction" wouldn't be now thriving economy as it slowly descends into being a commuter town with and i quote "Luxury flats being built in place of Mills and Industry"...Ooo so what jobs are their in luxury flats.....Apart from being built FUCKING SOD ALL.

Before her there was Baby P, a tiny boy beaten by lower-than-life thugs. Before him, there was Shaun Dykes, a suicidal teenager taunted by a gang of yobs to end his own life. Before him, there was Rhys Jones, shot dead as he cycled home from football practice. It goes on.

Such as James Bulgar...Remember him? Yeah everyone on Merseyside remembers him, it's called crime and it's been going on for years ever since politicians encouraged people to migrate and live in squalor such as Victorian England. It's not even poignant when you use a quote such as "I see the South have there Pm, why can't us northners have ours".

How can Gordon Brown argue that people who talk about a broken society are wrong? These children suffered at the very sharpest end of our broken society but all over the country are other young victims, too.
Children whose toys are dad’s discarded drink bottles; whose role models are criminals, liars and layabouts; whose innocence is lost before their first milk tooth.

Whilst other children live wonderful lives in lovely houses with loving parents, and some people in POVERTY or close to poverty act well get through a haphazard education system that was meant to lock them out, go to college and get to University and get a decent grade, a grade they shouldn't get because their problems such as Dyslexia weren't spotted until they get to University and in this they waste 8 grand finding out.

What chance for these children? Raised without manners, morals or a decent education, they’re caught up in the same destructive chain as their parents. It’s a chain that links unemployment, family breakdown, debt, drugs and crime. Breaking that chain means recognising the scale of the problem and taking serious, long-term action.

Yeah what chances for a Children raised without manners (Poor people can have manners), morals (Poor people can have morals), Decent Education (Yeah and who educated Karen Matthews, who's education system was she educated under), Caught Under the same chain as there parents (What having to go from job to job because of mass closure of industry throughout the 80's yeah what chance do THEY HAVE), Unemployment (Lack of Industry ring any bells), Family Breakdown (David Davis anyone?), debt (Sort many students are in which encourages some to prostitute themselves and the kind David Cameron actively called for), Drugs and Crime (which are direct links of poverty which is chained to unemployment....Now you see it Dave it's not Gordon Brown's fault or even Tony Blairs fault it's the errosion of industry by government's in previous decades.

Three years ago, when I became leader of the Conservative Party, I set out our central mission: to fix our broken society. That’s still the case today. In fact, the people I’ve met have strengthened my determination.

......By cutting Tax and declaring Recession is GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY....

Last week, I met Damilola Taylor’s father Richard, who has coped with tragedy with such dignity. His life was shattered by his son’s death but he has picked up the pieces and he’s making a real difference. Like so many others I’ve met, he is a survivor of the broken society.
On the train on the way back from a public meeting, I met a young man who has lost many friends to knife crime. He is now determined to go from school to school and tell kids how wrong it is to carry a knife. I owe it to people like Richard and that young man to keep this mission alive.

These people see a unhinged society, a society that is struggling and they feel it's their duty to do so but this is the Tory plan, to cut services and leave charities to fix the holes left.

But some say that right now we should focus only on finding a way out of this recession – that treating social failure is just a distraction. But the broken economy and the broken society go hand in hand. You cannot treat one problem without addressing the other.
Let’s not forget that one of the reasons our public finances are in such a mess is the sky-high costs of social failure.

Ooo I'm interested to hear this...I thought the finances of the government were linked to sorting out the NHS, Emergency Services, Housing and Industry and those things that had been basically unfunded throughout the last Tory government, after all you don't fund a system by letting it to rot. (Oh and add to this the amount of cost cutting that social services have had to endure and you get GUESS WHAT A SOCIAL FAILURE) but lets see how Dave wants to put it....

Family breakdown, unemployment and drug and alcohol addiction all rack up massive bills for Government. We have to bring down these costs to get public spending to a more controlled level, and we must do that to rebuild a stronger economy. So fixing our broken society is even more important now that we face a deep recession.

Cut SPENDING...Thought so without Tax Cuts though?

My plan for real reform
So what would that mission look like under a Conservative Government? Certainly policing will play its part. I want to see more police spending time in our communities – not arresting MPs just trying to get on with their job.

Bobbies on the beat do not solve crime, they make no difference to public safety just the feeling, weren't these Bobbies in the community...of Westminster?

And, yes, we do need tougher punishment, longer sentences and more prison places. But it’s not enough just to treat the symptoms of social breakdown – we need to treat its causes.

Tougher sentancing, Longer Sentances? Worked in the 1980's under this utopian bubble of Britain but i doubt it'll work now Dave, More Prison Places? More Prisons filled with people who will not benefit from prison, why stick a drug addict in prison...How will that possibly help him. But carry on I'm enjoying reading the consertative manifesto for 2005...Cough I mean 2010.

The Conservative plan starts with supporting families. We have some of the highest rates of family breakdown in Europe – and some of the worst social problems in Europe. Don’t tell me these things aren’t related.

Some might be, but others are probably not no...see the Poor people are called Poor for a reason they live in Abject POVERTY that means unlike people who cause crime on a saturday night they probably are not out there, though I would hazard a guess some are that's how some people are...You know what may solve it....Education and NOT LOCKING THEM UP.

We can’t help the change in heart that ends many marriages but we can offer practical support to lift family stresses. The birth of a baby is a joy but many marriages break down in the first year after a child is born. That’s why we’ll introduce 12 months’ parental leave – to be shared by the mother and father as they choose – and a universal health-visiting service for all parents.

Err if this means leaving work then....it's already available and to be honest as a unemployed graduate I don't really think you can build a solid realible work force on Temporary leave.

Or it means and this would be really fucking funny, leaving the parent or the child for 6 months by both parents.....BY Taking a child away you'll mend a broken society....Sorry I'm just going go off and laugh, how about a radical plan about teaching young people about SEX.

And as any parent knows, juggling work and childcare can put a strain on the strongest relationship. We need a revolution in flexible working – and the next Conservative Government will lead it.

We do need a revolution in flexible working, I agree it needs to be set around the EU laws on working and needs to include all not just people who want a career and a child and are not willing to scarafice one or the other.

We’ll also reform tax and benefits so that they support and strengthen families and marriage and we will put an end to the ‘couple penalty’ to send out the message that as a society we reward commitment.

Whats the couple penalty, that they get more benefits as it is already. "Are you getting smacked about?" The Consertatives will give you more money to stay with your husband, Now will you stay with him? It will end the broken society and keep abuse of both women and children in the closet like it used too.

Another challenge is reforming our schools. It is a tragedy that today, almost half of all 11-year-olds cannot read, write and add up properly.
Turning this around won’t happen overnight – it needs long-term change. Not just tougher discipline and stronger standards, but radical reform.

Yeah and that's started under Labour....It's improved because instead of being almost half which is I think 31% if i remember it was in 1997 more than that.

That’s why we’re planning 1,000 new academies with real freedoms, and why we’ll allow people with a passion for education to set up their own schools.

Yeah Business and school.......Surely Education cannot be affected by people's prejudices and money.

Perhaps the toughest task ahead is reforming welfare. Today in Britain, there are almost five million working-age people out of work and on benefits. This is a tragedy.

Indeed i agree, Maybe we should've not closed all those Industries....

Work gives life shape. It gives people esteem and responsibility. It powers our economy. So we’re going to end the something-for-nothing culture. If you don’t take a reasonable offer of a job, you will lose benefits. No ifs, no buts.

Does Dave not realise that I and many others don't even get a JOB OFFER let alone a resonable one. Maybe it's all that Temporary work you encourage up in that previous sentance.

This is what Government can do. But it’ll be down to all of us to take responsibility and fix our broken society. That responsibility starts at home. I was so impressed by the actions of Neil Metcalfe, the father who found a gun in his son’s bedroom and tipped off the police.
Refreshingly, his son felt the same after a while. ‘It’s right that parents take this line,’ he said. ‘If more did, there’d be less trouble.’ Imagine if everyone stepped up to the plate like that.

Yes it does...Your right David it starts at home and with the right education for people, then we would have less crime, more security, better living but most of your good policies are already implemented and most of your bad policies which is most of the document are tried and failed methods of the 1980's and even further back.

By reinforcing our responsibilities to each other, we can help to create a culture of mutual respect and revive Britain’s best values.
I know that cultural change like this won’t be made in a year, a parliamentary term or a decade. It’ll take a generation. But we must keep heart and keep working to achieve it.

Ah glad you agree with Labour...

Three years ago, I set out my mission and, three years on, I’m more fired up for change than ever. In three years’ time, I want to be in Government, rolling up my sleeves to get things done.

Yeah like all those unemployed people, who could of been working in industry, remember the one your school freinds at Eton booed...It's made in passing reference in Eton Rifles your favourite song. And poverty surely you would recongnise that from the Smiths songs...Broken society Hindley people on the moors.

You don't talk down a person, I was talked down to and I failed, I was told you would never be able to write for any publication. Then I ended up Just at college, and i met people who inspired me and encouraged me. Dave feels that talking down society is the answer, but who is the most loved and most inspiring politician of today it is Barack Obama his message "We can do it".

If you read that thanks.

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In all honesty, I'd much rather see Cameron in next term then see Mr. Brown stick around.

But, there is still plenty of time for me to change my mind.

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In all honesty, I'd much rather see Cameron in next term then see Mr. Brown stick around.

But, there is still plenty of time for me to change my mind.

Why...

You seriously want services cut, because thats actually there. And he's now even lawed out tax cuts which wouldn't go lower than the high paid.

I would prefer a Government that moves beyond the "Family Bullshite" Labour have stuck on record, but Cameron wants that increased.

But explain if you want, I'll see where your coming from.

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In all honesty, I'd much rather see Cameron in next term then see Mr. Brown stick around.

But, there is still plenty of time for me to change my mind.

look into the Tories further, nearly all the concrete plans they have involve punitive measures towards the poor (justified by taking horrors like Karen Matthews and the baby p parents as representatives of all 'chavs' on council estates etc, just as Toryhis predecessors capitalised on James Bulger's murder to justify ludicrous criminal justice policies). Look at how often he pulls what can only be described as craven publicity stunts, which he's been doing for years before we started highlighting them in this thread. Look at his obsession with 'broken society' and social disorder, always focused on the poor of course, then look up the Bullingdon club he and Boris Johnson were members of and tell me how that isn't social disorder. look at the think-tanks and pressure groups they get the majority of their policy from... that's right, near identical list to the later Major years and the farces that were Duncan-Smith and Howard. They're just much better at selling the exact same shit to the public now because Cameron and half his fucking cabinet used to work in advertising or PR. Look at Boris Johnson's mayoral campaign, a dry run for the national scene with the same advisors behind it etc.... it was based on unfounded smears on his opponent via the tory press, US Republican style, and featured the incredible claim on the 'crime' section of his online manifesto that 'front page headlines' were more important than all those silly facts and figures - literally making the brazen claim that The Sun, The Daily Mail, The Telegraph etc should have considerable influence on actual crime policy in Britain! He still won because no fucker read his manifesto, he was the wacky one off HIGNFY, a scripted program, and he wasn't Ken Livingstone


and that's the point right there, if you want to vote against Labour, good on you, so will I. If you want to vote against Labour and give that protest vote to the fucking Tories you're only shooting yourself in the foot. They've had power in this country for around two thirds of the last century and they've never changed their overriding principles one bit, they've ALWAYS relied on demonising big sections of the poor (single mums, council estates, benefits cheats, in fact just benefits claimants full stop, the mentally ill) so that they can continue to perpetuate the incredible wealth gap this country has, consistently convincing White Van Voter to vote against his own kind and make his own financial situation worse because he wants to stick it to them immigrants and doleites. There are other parties and other candidates, it makes no sense to vote against an invasive, reactionary Centre Right party like Labour of late in favour of a slightly further right 'centrist' party. At best, absolute best case scenario, they're basically the same. Surely you must have some local candidate, be they Lib Dem, SNP, Greens, independant, that will do their best for your local area without tacitly supporting the worst of mainstream party politics?


tl,dr: Cameron still a massive massive cunt, please get hit by a double decker bus like your favourite Smiths song Dave son