Gays have a "Duty" to vote Tory

I shuddered at this suggestion made by PPC Margot James

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7644851.stm

After the voting record on LGBT issues that this CURRENT Tory party has not to mention that this was the party that brought in Section 28 and tried their hardest to keep such a sickening piece of legistration. Ok many say lets not live in the past and we shouldn't and it's good to see Mr Cameron change his views on homosexuality after all he voted against the removal of Section 28 too.

I wouldn't even accept the arguement over tax, due to the way the complex tax system works and due to the amount of single people who are not homosexual.

No one has the "duty" to vote for the Tories let alone Homosexuals who since some time in 2006 became welcome in the Tory party.

The party of Homosexuals, the party of enviorment, the party of fairness............All Total arrogant bullshite.

a mate of mine (who does vote tory) tried to join his uni's tory society when he was a fresher and was refused. he hadn't come out to me at that point, but not sure if he'd already told his parents and close friends.

his political views were the only thing that made me laugh when he did come out

cosmic scouser 192 wrote:a mate of mine (who does vote tory) tried to join his uni's tory society when he was a fresher and was refused. he hadn't come out to me at that point, but not sure if he'd already told his parents and close friends.

his political views were the only thing that made me laugh when he did come out

Alot of Gay people are Tories hell two of my exes were, though one later changed to Liberal after he dated someone else for a while.

Bry's the only leftie i've ever dated.

i'm sure there are a lot of gay tories, that bloke from big brother wrote speeches for thatcher ffs, although what with him being camp as christmas and black, i'd bet they never met.

it's just the stereotypical viewpoint of the party (which they're clearly trying to move away from with this article) is probably enough to push a lot of none-politically minded people away from voting for them


I'm quite interested to see how cameron's gonna win the next election, it's not going to be on policy or "character" as he's hoping. i'm guessing it'll mostly be people like my ex who i was chatting to last night saying "well Labour screwed the country up so they've gotta be better than them"

don't know who i'm gonna vote for this time round. may join captain sensible's party and stand myself so i can avoid voting for the big 2 and a half, or OMRLP who i've fallen out with

I live in a right leftie student house now. Got a new housemate and he's right on the mark when it comes to this stuff wheras my old housemate Antonio used to turn up the tv when Cameron was on

first house i lived in in bristol was with three tories and a dub (so we left her off the electoral roll)
they're quite popular in that part of the world

cosmic scouser 192 wrote:i'm sure there are a lot of gay tories, that bloke from big brother wrote speeches for thatcher ffs, although what with him being camp as christmas and black, i'd bet they never met.

Derek Laud was a member of the Monday Club, a vile bunch of cunts who were even pro-apartheid. I'm sure he was one of those cunts who manages to rationalise the bigotry of those he associates with out of his own greed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Monday_Club

Worth pointing out that despite having good PR these days with articles such as this helping them 'modernise' in the public eye, they're still miles right of centre, still have most of the same bigoted old dinosaurs influencing policy behind the scenes, and even cursory analysis of Cameron's speeches show that they're going to fuck the poor (and only actively benefit the very richest) just as hard as any other Tory government this century. If you vote Conservative and you're not on a 6-figure salary you're functionally retarded, if you ARE you're still borderline sociopathic if you'd vote in someone who have consistently failed to even attempt the basic governmental responsibility of protecting the neediest sections of society.

Problem is Labour haven't ruined the country, they've not done brilliantly well but they've funded massively and have taxed accordingly.

The Tories had written off the NHS in the 1990's and if Labour hadn't got back in they would of been condemned as much as you complain about it today, the NHS is a hell of alot better than it was in 1997.

As for that Tax Alliance, these people want 21st century services for 20th century rates of tax.

I'll write a case for Labour in a few hours while watching the Palin Vs Biden Discussion but for now i am off.

Wilkesandliberty wrote:Problem is Labour haven't ruined the country, they've not done brilliantly well but they've funded massively and have taxed accordingly.

that's pretty much what i said to my ex, apart from the superlatives

as for the NHS you'll have trouble getting me to complain about it since they paid for my *cough* (uncompleted) *cough* degree. it's still a long way from perfect, and i still plan to get health insurance when i can afford it (something i think the govt should encourage to relieve the pressure on the NHS somewhat) but i'd much rather have our system than the systems in place in most other countries.

I think the only way I'd vote labour is if there were only two options on the ballot, lib dems need to do something spectacular to get me back onside, but since they chose nick clegg as their leader i doubt that's going to happen (the something spectacular)

I normally vote Lib Dem, but debating whether a tactical vote to keep the Tories out would be more worthwhile. Was pleasantly surprised to find out that Southsea is actually a Lib Dem area.

amplifiedAnt wrote:I normally vote Lib Dem, but debating whether a tactical vote to keep the Tories out would be more worthwhile. Was pleasantly surprised to find out that Southsea is actually a Lib Dem area.

Shithole too, the Lib dems are frankly bullshitters, they continously moan about holiday homes and 2nd houses and fail to pass affordable housing in Cornwall whilst passing permission for building private housing gets passed by the bucketload.

Add to corrupt Casino deal done at 5.30 on the election day in Bournemouth, knowing they were going get kicked out, and the continous Bootle gets all the money in Sefton when Bootle people were told Southport get all the money.

Finally Liverpool and the defection of a counciller from Independent to Liberal Democrat, i bet the City who voted for a NOC loved the fact they were conned back into having Lib Dems lead for another 2 years.

That's just the professional aspect, Anson Westbrook Former Winton Cllr was a complete wanker, he tried to claim i was dishonouring his name at one such Winton forum meeting by spreading false rumours about him being offensive towards some women.

Problem for Westbrook was that it appeared on several news websites still, and that he knew the Forum disliked student representatives and would side with him. This guy suggested that the students were doing Graffiti.....turns out it was a son of a promient woman on the forum board they covered that up too.

Mind you Andrew George the Mp down here isn't too bad for getting out and about so credit to him on that, The Tory MP for my ward in Bournemouth John Butterfill was an unknown face to me until my final year at University and i actively seek politics.

Sure there are probably shite Labour Mps and Councils, Sefton is one example of a split that never worked its just i have knowledge of the lib dems mostly and i think they are pretty atricious party.

Anyone who buys this "gay friendly tory" shit should just remember one number: 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28

pinkhandbag IV wrote:Anyone who buys this "gay friendly tory" shit should just remember one number: 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28

Most public schools try out gay ideas mostly anal i must say....

Sorry.