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Post  amplifiedAnt on Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:29 am

Yesterday was a pretty pedestrian race to be fair - Raikonnen put one over team-mate Massa at the start and then ended up out in front when Hamilton span at the end of the first lap. Then, 3 laps from the end it all went mental.

The rain was hammering down and Hamilton was coping with the conditions much better than Raikonnen was able to. He caught right up with the Finn and was about to overtake him when Raikonnen pushed him onto the grass. Hamilton had to cut the corner, giving him a false lead which he relinquished, as per the rules. At the next corner he overtook legitimately in an awesome move.

At the end of THAT lap, a skidding back-marker mean Hamilton had to take avoiding action, meaning Kimi regained the lead - only to lose it big-time a few seconds later, seemingly handing the victory to Lewis. This was one lap before the end and by now the rain was coming down so hard that most of the drivers pitted to go onto wet tires, because it was impossible to carry on at any speed. Hamilton and Massa (who had moved up to second) tip-toed round, both almost tripping off the road several times. Brilliantly tense and the best end to a Grand Prix that I've ever seen.

Then this morning's sport's headlines bring the biggest anti-climax. Hamilton was docked 25 seconds for the corner he cut when he had no other option. Bugger.


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Post  Sprucy on Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:44 am

this was a great race, was on the edge of my seat on the last few laps. Cant believe they docked Hamilton 25 seconds though! not a happy bunny!

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Post  amplifiedAnt on Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:45 am

It didn't seem representative of the racing to me. Lewis was past Raikonnen, but Kimi cut right in front of him. It was a case of hitting the Ferrari or jumping the corner - a no-brainer
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Post  cosmic scouser 192 on Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:21 am

i'd left the hostel with the septics, the paddies and the soft southern pansy (didn't want to leave anyone out of the generalised stereotypes) and Tim pointed out that the race was on in the crescent so i could watch the end, i replied "it's pretty much a procession no...." as i looked up to see hamilton flying past, then kimi in the wall, than a brief shot of bourdais spinning
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Post  amplifiedAnt on Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:34 am

Seems to be a massive buzz erupting over this incident - from all factions of F1 fans, not just McLaren's. The FIA are going to lose even more face over this unless they allow McLaren to appeal the decision.
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Post  cosmic scouser 192 on Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:46 am

They're allowed to appeal, they can't stop that, it's just whether or not they pass it.

I'm not one of the Scuderia's loathing haters, but I would imagine they put a complaint in, but probably before Kimi went off
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Post  amplifiedAnt on Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:53 am

Hmm, well according to the paper I was reading this morning, the FIA have to approve McLaren's right to appeal. Not sure exactly how that works or whether it was inaccurate reporting, but either way it sounds like the decision of 3 stewards is going to have an awful lot of influence on the championship.
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Post  Sprucy on Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:45 pm

just watching the highlights of todays race, any comments?

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Post  INTERNET MALE on Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:27 pm

Sprucy wrote:just watching the highlights of todays race, any comments?

nothing much to add beyond " smug smug smug Vettel smug smug smug "

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Post  amplifiedAnt on Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:43 am

Top race from Vettel, controlled the pace all the way through - made Kovalainen look quite poor. Can't believe Massa didn't get above 6th - poor show from him. Hamilton was very pacy, just a shame for him that the rain didn't come back, or he'd have been in contention for the win.
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Post  mash on Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:47 am

Vettel Very Happy

Should be amazing for the Toro Rosso staff who were with them as Minardi. Must be crushing for Bourdais, he could have got a podium easily, given his pace. Impressive stuff from Hamilton, but he's showing his ruthless streak a lot more often these days. Raikkonen is baffling though, must have been set up for dry, as he set seven fastest laps in the last nine laps after struggling for most of the race! That's no excuse though - apparently Vettel's car was also set up for the dry.

Good for to see the championship is still close - can't rule out Raikkonen, and Kubica getting on the podium has kept him in the fight. Two amazing races in a row - and I hear there may be rain in Singapore too...
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Post  amplifiedAnt on Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:53 am

I'm ruling out Raikonnen, personally. I know he came from a similar position last year, but he's too lacking in form to get the wins he needs. Of course, if Massa/Hamilton trip over themselves a couple of times, I may be made to eat my words. Was a little surprised after the race to see how well Kubica has kept himself in touch with the leaders - he got a little lucky on his way to the podium yesterday, but might still pose a threat if he continues to score consistently.
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Post  amplifiedAnt on Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:23 am

Hamilton's appeal thrown out of court. Gay.
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Post  mash on Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:19 am

Predictable. I didn't think they'd win the appeal, but I'm somehow surprised that it was simply dismissed as inadmissible. Oh well - rain still predicted for Singapore Very Happy
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Post  amplifiedAnt on Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:55 am

Oof, it'll be chaos.

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Post  cosmic scouser 192 on Sun Sep 28, 2008 11:51 am

those chilies and onions seemed to keep the rain away, barrichello still got his gloves a bit wet though
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Post  amplifiedAnt on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:03 am

Can't think of many things this year that have been more brilliant than seeing the Ferrari mechanics sprinting down the pit lane to remove the fuel hose from Massa's car. Perfect Very Happy
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Post  cosmic scouser 192 on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:06 am

nah, it was topped by the same mechanics walking back down the pitlane with the hose over their shoulders like a coffin

i'm still waiting to hear if the stewards are going to d/q massa or impose a 10 place penalty in the next race for causing sutil to crash. unfortunately as the camera that would've shown the shot had already moved i don't know whether they've enough evidence.
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Post  amplifiedAnt on Tue Sep 30, 2008 4:08 am

Hmm, something for the conspiracy theorists to mull over at least. It almost seemed harsh that Massa had to do a drive-through after all the pit-lane drama Laughing
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Post  itskristina on Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:27 pm

i can't believe they canceled Montreal for next year. that's bad news...
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Post  amplifiedAnt on Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:44 am

Absolute bollocks. Obviously money talking - why keep dross like Valencia in and take out one of the best 'racing' circuits? I see they're adding yet another middle eastern GP to the calendar, almost certainly with plush VIP seats and facilities... Never mind Mosely, I think it's time that Bernie buggered off. Thing is, by removing the only remaining N. American race of the season, they'll almost certainly be losing a LOT of fans from that region and there's a lot of money there, so if that's the main concern, they're going about this all wrong. Yes, there is a growth in interest in F1 in wealthy Asian regions, but is it sustainable?
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Post  cosmic scouser 192 on Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:18 am

in short, yes, especially if a decent eastern driver comes to the fore in the next five years.

as for Bernie, he tried to sell a few years ago but neither he nor the FIA could find a suitable buyer so he's done a Ferguson and told them he's staying unless they offer him an FIA position when he leaves. I wouldn't call Valencia dross, but would definitely want the Montreal back, i'm guessing that's also partly to do with the track condition this year.

I still think they should rotate the European GP, would make it more interesting as the drivers wouldn't have as much exp of it
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Post  amplifiedAnt on Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:40 am

Yeah, but going on past experiences I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

Bearing in mind the hoops that Spa jumped through to get the Belgian GP re-instated, it would've been small beans to sort out Montreal.

Personally I found Valencia to be far too pedestrian. Street racing does not always equal decent competition. They should definitely rotate the Euro GP more often. The Nurburgring Sudschleife is missed.
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Post  mash on Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:56 am

Gah, that sucks, Montreal is a good track. Abu Dhabi better not be another Herman Tilke snore-fest (like Bahrain and China). Does seem like a strange decision, it's possible it could just be Bernie posturing to wring more money from the organisers - he's axed races from provisional calenders before. No race in North America is bad news for the sport.

All the Asian GPs seem to be adverts for the country (definitely Malaysia and Singapore), rather than catering for a genuinely growing market. Interest in Malaysia seems to be falling, and the track facilities are said to have aged badly, so may be for the axe soon enough. But as Doyle said, a good driver could change all that.

As for the European GP, I've heard they may rename Valencia (which really was a boring track, imo) the 'Mediterranean GP' so they can bring back a rotating Euro GP. But that would mean axing somewhere else! Hungary, maybe? Make Valencia the Spanish GP? Barcelona is just as dull as Valencia. Factor a possible Indian GP in the future, and it's a continual conundrum...
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