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Post  Rocky on Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:24 am

If he was involved in both chimbonda deals then...


On December 15th 2008, McKay was given a suspended ban by an independent regulatory commission after being found guilty of breaching FA rules. The issue arose over McKay acting as an agent for two consecutive transfers of the same player, Benjani Mwaruwari. The player moved from Auxerre to Portsmouth in January 2006, when McKay acted on behalf of Auxerre, and then the agent acted for Portsmouth when the Zimbabwe striker moved to Manchester City in January 2008. The punishment also stated that any further breaches of the FA's agent regulations will result in McKay being suspended from all deals involving English clubs during one transfer window.

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Sunderland need to stop tapping up our players cheers Hahahahaha Harry's got less self insight than an estrela.

I do think Redknapp is doing a lot right this window though, Palacios, Defoe and Cudicini are all great signings who adressed big weaknesses in the squad.
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Post  INTERNET MALE on Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:41 am

he does tend to buy well when he starts at a club, open sandbox, no money problems etc, need to build up a solid spine to graft random shit like Titi Camara, Samassi Abou, Gary Charles and Raggy Soma onto without getting himself sacked...

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Post  Wilkesandliberty on Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:34 am

INTERNET MALE wrote:he does tend to buy well when he starts at a club, open sandbox, no money problems etc, need to build up a solid spine to graft random shit like Titi Camara, Samassi Abou, Gary Charles and Raggy Soma onto without getting himself sacked...


How dare you....TITI CAMARA is a legend for his half arsed performances ending in a sublime goal or mostly being dragged off.

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Post  INTERNET MALE on Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:49 am

Wilkesandliberty wrote:
INTERNET MALE wrote:he does tend to buy well when he starts at a club, open sandbox, no money problems etc, need to build up a solid spine to graft random shit like Titi Camara, Samassi Abou, Gary Charles and Raggy Soma onto without getting himself sacked...


How dare you....TITI CAMARA is a legend for his half arsed performances ending in a sublime goal or mostly being dragged off.

fuck arry, Houllier must have been a fucking great motivator to get 9 goals in 33 from Camara, not a bad tally at all. Redknapp spent £1.5m that West Ham couldn't really afford, and he didn't score once, playing only 11 times in 3 years, and is widely considered one of their worst ever players. Great eye for a bargain, that Redknapp Very Happy

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Post  Rocky on Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:33 am

He is a decent manager though and he hasn't made more bad buys than other managers in this league. Even Wenger has made poor buys. Kranjcar, Distin, Defoe, Johnson, James, Mendes, Judas, Muntari, Diarra etc. were all good deals for pompey and he can't really be blamed for their astronomical wage budget as that would be the responsibility of the chairman/CFO/board. 99,9% of people would understand that you can't have the wage/turnover ratio pompey and some other clubs have (according to deloitte: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2301797/Deloitte-football-finance-review-Club-by-club-Premier-League-analysis.html) Either the chairmen of pompey and west ham were extremely incompetent or they were prepared to cover yearly losses like abrahamovic do. Redknapp is a football man, not an accountant, he'll use what is provided to him and I trust Levy to keep that within the limits of what the club can afford ("Spurs are ranked top in the country for effective cost management, calculated by the key performance indicator wages to turnover ratio")
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Post  INTERNET MALE on Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:05 pm

Rocky wrote:He is a decent manager though and he hasn't made more bad buys than other managers in this league. Even Wenger has made poor buys. Kranjcar, Distin, Defoe, Johnson, James, Mendes, Judas, Muntari, Diarra etc. were all good deals for pompey and he can't really be blamed for their astronomical wage budget as that would be the responsibility of the chairman/CFO/board. 99,9% of people would understand that you can't have the wage/turnover ratio pompey and some other clubs have (according to deloitte: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2301797/Deloitte-football-finance-review-Club-by-club-Premier-League-analysis.html) Either the chairmen of pompey and west ham were extremely incompetent or they were prepared to cover yearly losses like abrahamovic do. Redknapp is a football man, not an accountant, he'll use what is provided to him and I trust Levy to keep that within the limits of what the club can afford ("Spurs are ranked top in the country for effective cost management, calculated by the key performance indicator wages to turnover ratio")

I would say that Redknapp has made more bad buys during his time at West Ham alone than any other current Prem manager has in their career (this becomes void if anyone employs Souness before May). Not just obvious shit players, he signed the likes of Paolo Futre and Ilie Dumitrescu and made them look like sub-Conference players. And his strategy towards the end when he stopped even pretending to care about results was simply to keep the squad in permanent transition so he and his cohorts could make large personal profits - he'd usually sign a v.average player for a couple of million then give up on them after a couple of months, demanding a replacement (via Storrie) so the cycle could continue, usually telling Terry Brown at that point that he knew the player wouldn't be up to it, you can't get a decent player at that price

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Post  Rocky on Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:20 pm

He bought some pretty good ones for smallish fees as well though: Bilic, Berkovich, Di Canio, Foe, Kanoute, Defoe, Hartson (nice profit at least)

Apart from Raduciouiu and Song the shocking ones was mostly cheap (Todorov, Schemmel) or free (Futre, Suker, Winterburn)

In the season after he left they paid 15m for Hutchison/Repka, and bought quality like soma, labant, foxe. rahim, curtois, tihinen, breen, brevett, sofiane, vokolos...maybe they had a scout problem?

He also deserve some credit for giving the talents a chance/helping them break through, not all managers would have done that.

Oh 1-0 Tim Cahill, nice one clap
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Post  INTERNET MALE on Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:04 pm

Rocky wrote:He bought some pretty good ones for smallish fees as well though: Bilic, Berkovich, Di Canio, Foe, Kanoute, Defoe, Hartson (nice profit at least)

Apart from Raduciouiu and Song the shocking ones was mostly cheap (Todorov, Schemmel) or free (Futre, Suker, Winterburn)

In the season after he left they paid 15m for Hutchison/Repka, and bought quality like soma, labant, foxe. rahim, curtois, tihinen, breen, brevett, sofiane, vokolos...maybe they had a scout problem?

He also deserve some credit for giving the talents a chance/helping them break through, not all managers would have done that.

Oh 1-0 Tim Cahill, nice one clap

haven't checked the whole list but Soma and Foxe were Redknapp signings, the Soma one a perfect example as he played about 3 games, is on record as saying he doesn't know why he was bought, as he got basically no support or enthusiasm from Harry or anyone once signed, and there were numerous discrepancies/inconsistencies in the transfer fee and agents/signing on fees.

his record for 'helping [young talent] break through' is absolutely appalling for, he's living off the good fortune of having an academy at a club he managed produce Ferdinand, Joe Cole, Fat Frank etc. look at how he treated people like Gary O'Neil once he's established at the club - he will ship out anyone that can't be seen as a Redknapp signing or a 'Redknapp success story' (possibly Heurelho Gomes as his form has vastly improved under arry's new GK coach?) and will aim long-term to have nigh-on the whole Spurs squad represented by his 'trusted' agents for maximum transfer market control and liquidity.

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Post  Rocky on Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:13 pm

INTERNET MALE wrote:
his record for 'helping [young talent] break through' is absolutely appalling for, he's living off the good fortune of having an academy at a club he managed produce Ferdinand, Joe Cole, Fat Frank etc.

Can't you say that about most managers? Few if any (maybe wenger) managers are involved that early in the process. They do depend on their scouts and academy, all they can do is give young players a chance and he did do that at west ham. He also gave johnson a 2nd chance at pompey where he blossomed. I don't get what is appalling about him in this area, just because he is corrupt and have no shame doesn't mean he is incompetent when it comes to football management.

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he will ship out anyone that can't be seen as a Redknapp signing or a 'Redknapp success story' (possibly Heurelho Gomes as his form has vastly improved under arry's new GK coach?) and will aim long-term to have nigh-on the whole Spurs squad represented by his 'trusted' agents for maximum transfer market control and liquidity.

Mmmm yeah but this definition is so broad, the whole squad was underperforming at the start of the season so he can regard anyone doing well as a "redknapp success story" if his ego is big enough. The only ones not in that category is probably king, woodgate and possibly corluka and modric. Wouldn't the ultimate ego booster be success anyway?

To be able to meet this long term goal you talk about he need a gullible idiot/crook on the top, daniel levy is a lot of things but he does not fit that description.
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Post  Wilkesandliberty on Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:36 am

Robbie Keane's back....at Spurs and you may say you've gained 5 million but for that half a season you've missed his 4 goals.

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Post  INTERNET MALE on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:00 am

so Harry Redknapp, dumbfounded upon joining Spurs that the club had spent £30m or so on two strikers, Pavlyuchenko and Bent who can't seem to play alongside each other, responds in his first transfer window by spending about £30m on two strikers we KNOW can't work alongside each other clap

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Post  Rocky on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:11 am

INTERNET MALE wrote:so Harry Redknapp, dumbfounded upon joining Spurs that the club had spent £30m or so on two strikers, Pavlyuchenko and Bent who can't seem to play alongside each other, responds in his first transfer window by spending about £30m on two strikers we KNOW can't work alongside each other clap

Defoe is most likely out for a long time and when he come back we have 2 decent big man/little man partnerships in defoe/pav and keane/bent (or keane/pav and defoe/bent). I'm much more concerned about his backwards 4-5-1 tactic away from home, its like watching a slow painful death, maybe this signing will end that horrorshow.
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Post  Rocky on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:14 am

Wilkesandliberty wrote:Robbie Keane's back....at Spurs and you may say you've gained 5 million but for that half a season you've missed his 4 goals.

15m is at least 5m too much for a soon to be 29 year old who hasn't exactly set the world alight this season.

edit: bbc say it is 12m initially, so it depend on what the add ons (3m?) are. If it is based on goals scored it is a little bit more acceptable. Still a bit too much imo.

When are Carrick and Jol coming back?
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Post  Wilkesandliberty on Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:37 am

Rocky wrote:
Wilkesandliberty wrote:Robbie Keane's back....at Spurs and you may say you've gained 5 million but for that half a season you've missed his 4 goals.

15m is at least 5m too much for a soon to be 29 year old who hasn't exactly set the world alight this season.

edit: bbc say it is 12m initially, so it depend on what the add ons (3m?) are. If it is based on goals scored it is a little bit more acceptable. Still a bit too much imo.

When are Carrick and Jol coming back?

Yeah was rumoured to be 15 all day so, To be honest we got an ok price for someone we quite clearly didn't want and I would say probably didn't need in the first place.

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Post  Rocky on Sun Feb 08, 2009 2:48 pm

Good old wenger

on the disallowed goal (correct decision, eboue pushed woody in the back) which happend far far away from him:

"The goal we scored is completely normal, how can you cancel a goal like that?" the Frenchman told BBC Sport.

On the sending off (correct again) which happend right in front of him:

"What he did was clumsy but the first yellow card was very hard. The second one, I haven't seen.
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Post  Wilkesandliberty on Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:34 am

Wenger such a dick.

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Post  Rocky on Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:12 am

Tottenham striker Roman Pavlyuchenko says he is struggling with certain aspects of life in Britain following his move from Spartak Moscow. The 27-year-old Russian has expressed his dislike for British food, women, referees and television commentators.

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Post  INTERNET MALE on Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:20 am

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Tottenham striker Roman Pavlyuchenko says he is struggling with certain aspects of life in Britain following his move from Spartak Moscow. The 27-year-old Russian has expressed his dislike for British... television commentators.

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want to see the cameras capture the look on his face when he's informed that Pleat actually used to manage Spurs. or just hearing Pleat try and pronounce 'Pavlyuchenko'

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Post  Rocky on Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:50 pm

I've just noticed Hudd's armband. Is he captain or has his baker died?
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Post  Rocky on Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:08 am

Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp is keen to be a future England boss. He said: "I would love to be England manager one day. I am 61 and once my job is done (at Spurs) I would have time left to be England manager."

Seems like a modest and fair request.
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Post  Wilkesandliberty on Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:14 am

How long is he thinking of staying at Spurs....

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Post  Berlin knives on Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:04 am

Wilkesandliberty wrote:How long is he thinking of staying at Spurs....

Until his "job is done" whatever that means.
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Post  INTERNET MALE on Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:45 am

it was his 'last job in football' when he took it, just like the Southampton and (2nd) Portsmouth jobs were, and just like he now says he wants the England job to be

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Post  Wilkesandliberty on Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:13 am

INTERNET MALE wrote:it was his 'last job in football' when he took it, just like the Southampton and (2nd) Portsmouth jobs were, and just like he now says he wants the England job to be

I still think Big Sam should be given a chance, hell ricky tomlinson did ok Razz

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